Entrevista a Daniel Giménez Cacho

G. Cacho y C. Bergman 016La ocasión lo permitía y  decidió mostrarse con los mismos gestos y ademanes  de su personaje cotidiano. El lugar no le era ajeno. Dos años en la Facultad de Ciencias de la máxima casa de estudios de México contenían los referentes necesarios para que en su memoria se dibujara el terreno ya conocido. Todo estaba en orden: las sonrisas de los estudiantes, el aroma del viento, las palabras apasionadas… ningún elemento parecía distinto. Las cosas hubieran fluido con normalidad de no haber estado insertas en el período enmarcado por esos ocho días.

Su gorra verde, su camisa de cuadros, sus “patas de gallo” (fieles reflejos del tiempo; de sus marcas), y su mirada afable, fueron testigos de una atmósfera diferente en Ciudad Universitaria.

Durante ocho días, entre febrero y marzo del año en curso, caminar por los recintos del Centro Cultural Universitario (CCU) del alma máter del país significó perderse en un mundo donde confluían senderos tapizados con rollos de película de 35 mm y cielos bordados con telones rojos. En ese contexto, cualquier persona podía transitar del escenario teatral al set cinematográfico para después mutar en un personaje del teatro físico que abandona su papel para concluir su día como protagonista de un filme del cineasta francés Ossang. De manera clara, en esa coyuntura, el tiempo y el espacio no fueron lugares de desencuentro para dos artes acostumbradas a renacer y morir entre la luz, la sombra, el sonido y el silencio.

Aunque la transformación efímera en el ambiente del CCU de la Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM) parecía obra de la pluma de un dramaturgo omnipotente o de la alquimia de un realizador cuya cámara guarda poderes ocultos, él se mantuvo sereno.

La magia y la divinidad poco tuvieron que ver en que el CCU se convirtiera en un espacio de festividad, de análisis y de reflexión del cine y el arte teatral; fue gracias a los esfuerzos conjuntos del Festival Internacional de Cine de la UNAM (FICUNAM) y de la Cátedra Ingmar Bergman en Cine y Teatro, que la zona dedicada para las manifestaciones artísticas de la Universidad Nacional se percibiera como un lugar mágico repleto de ensueños fílmicos e ilusiones teatrales.

Cuando él se dirigía para aportar su experiencia en dicha celebración, ya otras personalidades lo habían hecho: Apichatpong  Weerasethakul, Artavazd Peleshyan, Sergei Dvortsevoy, Kelly Reichardt… Su sonrisa complementaría el cúmulo de sonrisas de distintos países y continentes congregadas ahí. El lugar de su entrada en escena; la Mesa de reflexión: Encuentros y desencuentros del cine y el teatro en México, de la Cátedra Bergman.

Sentado a la derecha del escenógrafo mexicano Alejandro Luna, escuchaba con atención las palabras de la escritora Beatriz Novaro. Cuando ella expresó: “Los personajes del cine nos dicen quiénes son a través de su mirada”, se dejaron ver entre los resquicios de las pupilas de él, las siluetas fugaces de dos viejos conocidos. Primero se mostró “José Luis”, hombre elegante, hábil para los negocios sucios, que en “El callejón de los milagros” (Jorge Fons, 1995), pudo seducir a la bella “Alma” (Salma Hayek). Luego de la aparición de “José Luis”, se observó la llegada de “Nicolás Estrella”, galán insulso de “Profundo carmesí” (Arturo Ripstein, 1996), que con su falsa sonrisa y bisoñé conquistaba a las mujeres solitarias para después matarlas. Ellos dos fueron llamaradas volátiles de un ayer con vida, que al igual que las palabras de Novaro, desaparecieron.

Reflexiones como: “El cine y el teatro son lenguajes distintos, pero comparten un mismo objetivo; contar historias”; “El cine actual gira en torno al realismo; hoy la ficción puede acerarse más a la realidad que un documental”; “En el teatro el intercambio con el público es algo que, como actor, es muy difícil de renunciar”, y  “El teatro es un lujo y es por eso que va a sobrevivir por mucho tiempo”, brotaron de la boca del actor de 50 años, cuyo nombre, Daniel Giménez Cacho,  no responde a la totalidad de lo que es: la suma de todos los personajes que ha interpretado (ya que como afirma: “El teatro es una expresión de lo que somos”).

La intervención de Cacho en la Mesa fue concreta. Al igual que los directores Ignacio Ortiz y Mario Espinosa, el también dirigido por Pedro Almodóvar, “La mala educación” (2004), convino en que el primer punto de desencuentro entre el cine y el teatro es el actor; pese a eso, señaló que en ambas disciplinas “el actor debe tener la posibilidad de entrar en conflicto con el director”.

Opiniones diversas respecto al quehacer cinematográfico y teatral se vertieron en el Foro Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz del CCU en el contexto de la Cátedra Bergman, sin embargo, ninguna de ellas fue tan contundente y divertida como la arrojada por los labios de Alejandro Luna: “Lo único que tiene que ver en cine y teatro son las butacas”. Ante tales palabras, Giménez Cacho no tuvo otra opción más que la de reír.  De esa forma, en un ambiente ameno, el catapultado como actor por “La invención de cronos” (Guillermo del Toro, 1992), concluyó su participación en la fiesta cinematográfica y del arte escénico de la UNAM.

Minutos antes de abandonar el recinto, atrapado entre el vino y los canapés ofrecidos en el vestíbulo del Foro Sor Juana, una voz detuvo el andar de Cacho:

Rama: Oye Daniel, perdona que te moleste, ¿te podría hacer unas cuantas preguntas?

Daniel Giménez Cacho: Disculpa mano, pero llevo prisa. Si quieres te dejo mi correo electrónico para que por ahí me hagas las preguntas.

Rama: Me parece bien. (A su colaborador) Alan, porfas, apunta el correo, creo que no traigo donde anotarlo.

Alan: Sí carnal… jimenezca…

Daniel Giménez Cacho: Giménez con g. ¿Les urge mucho la entrevista?

Rama: Pues sí, un poco. En realidad es algo muy rápido. ¿Crees que sí te la podemos hacer ahorita?

Daniel Giménez Cacho: Bueno, está bien.

En ese instante Alan tomó un sorbo de vino y los ojos de Rama no disimularon la alegría:

Rama: ¡Muchas gracias Daniel! Para comenzar, ¿qué opinas de los actores que no se arriesgan en los proyectos que eligen; de aquellos que para actuar buscan un lugar cómodo?

Daniel Giménez Cacho: Creo que el arte debe ser un lugar de experimentación, de comunicación, de búsqueda, y si no se hace eso a mí sí me resulta muy aburrido… y como actor no te desarrollas; lo peor que también creo es que como actor si no avanzas retrocedes definitivamente.

Rama: Claro. En ese sentido, ¿te consideras un actor arriesgado?

Daniel Giménez Cacho: Pues trato, sí, de hacer cosas que no haya hecho; trabajos que representen un reto. Trato de que cada noche suceda algo nuevo que me haga tener muchas ganas de ir a actuar en esa ocasión, y no ir a repetir algo que sucede todo el tiempo.

Varios jóvenes con el celular en la mano, esperaban ansiosos que el protagonista de “La zona” (Rodrigo Plá, 2007), terminara la entrevista para poder saludarlo y tomarse una foto con él; mientras tanto, Cacho mencionaba que su motor para actuar radica en la magia que se desprende del instante teatral, de la manera mística en que circula el tiempo dentro del escenario.

Rama: ¿Podrías vivir sin actuar?

Daniel Giménez Cacho: ¡Sí! ¡Y hasta sin dos pies! (risas sinceras de los tres involucrados).

Mientras las risas fluían, la Secretaria Técnica de Programación y Asuntos Internacionales de la Coordinación de Difusión Cultural de la UNAM, Julieta Giménez Cacho, intervino en la plática-entrevista para ofrecerle una copa de vino a su hermano. En ese momento, Alan tosió como señal para apresurar las preguntas:

Rama: Daniel, podrías decirnos cuál es tu opinión acerca de la necesidad del público de contar con  ídolos a los cuales seguir, imitar, en los cuales creer…

Daniel Giménez Cacho: Es muy extraña esa necesidad. En México, en todos los ámbitos, esperamos que venga alguien a salvarnos. Es todo un fenómeno que yo me doy cuenta que no depende de uno, es decir, a mí me puede tocar en un cierto momento, pero no depende de mí; yo soy como una especie de vehículo social y pasa a través de mí. Es algo más grande… Y ese es el problema con la vanidad, uno cree: “Ay, yo soy bien chingón y en este momento todo mundo me adora”, y no, es una cosa que está pasando a través de ti y tú coincidiste en ese momento; si no estuvieras tú, estaría otro, estaría cualquiera. Es una necesidad social que la verdad es digna de estudiarse.

El tiempo de la entrevista estaba por consumirse, sin embargo, el galardonado repetidas veces con el Premio Ariel, alcanzó a mencionar que el teatro y el cine en México presentarán un crecimiento siempre y cuando se amplíe su producción; “habrá lugares para todos, para actores reconocidos y no reconocidos, si se aumentan los espacios de trabajo, si se produce en todos los niveles, ya sea teatro experimental, chico, mediano o grande, o cine comercial”.

Como despedida Giménez Cacho dijo: “Me encanta que haya mucha convocatoria de jóvenes que les interesa seguir reflexionando y discutiendo… Eventos como FICUNAM o como la Cátedra Bergman deben seguir haciéndose año con año… faltan muchas cosas por hacer, está muy abandonado todo este sector ¿no?, como le dicen los políticos: el subsector cultural”; después de reír con su último comentario, el histrión se marchó llevándose consigo los ensueños e ilusiones que durante una semana (y fracción) hicieron de la UNAM la metrópoli del cine y del teatro. La función había concluido.

“El pasado es un prólogo” William Shakespeare

AM/RL

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